HH: Let me try this a separate way. If, in fact, a Catholic is in a state of mortal sin, as the Church defines mortal sin, may they receive communion?
AS: I think that’s a very hard…no, they should not, if they sincerely believe that they are in a state of mortal sin, yes.
HH: And if the Church has a teaching about what moral sin is, and it is sufficiently clear, and it’s in the Catechism, and you reject that definition, or a Catholic rejects that definition, does that empower them to receive communion?
AS: I think that’s up to the individual. What the priest would say in any particular pastorl sense is that that depends between what you and your priest say, and the conversation you have, and the conscientious decision you reach. Now your entire mindset is authoritarianism. That’s your politics, that’s your belief, that the point of all faith is to submit to authority, and to give up judgment and conscience, and the kind of faith that I believe in. I disagree, and I think most Catholics disagree, and I think the Second Council disagrees.
HH: And it’s…
AS: But you know, that’s what you want. You support a president who has complete unitary executive authority to seize people at will and imprison them and torture them. And you believe in a form of Christianity in which the individual conscience has almost no role at all.
HH: Given that I haven’t written any of that, I find it interesting you’ve come to that conclusion. But you may hold that opinion for as long as you’d like.
AS: You support a president that suspends habeas corpus. I’ve read it.
HH: I’m more interested in this book. Again, I would love a footnote.
AS: And you support his imposition of torture. I’ve read it.
HH: I would love a footnote at some point, and I have not. But I would like you to go back to the book again. When you write that…
AS: You don’t support the president’s detention policy?
HH: Again, Andrew, it’s your book. If you want to have me do an interview with you on your blog about my book at some time, I’d love to do that. But I want to focus on The Conservative Soul.
AS: But the basis of your arguments are entirely based upon your worldview. It’s perfectly up to me to be able to ask you to describe where you’re coming from, because you’re not simply asking these questions, Hugh.
HH: You can. I allowed you to do that.
AS: You are accusing and cross-examining.
HH: I…no…
AS: That’s the way you do these interviews.
HH: I’m just asking questions about what you wrote.
AS: No, you’re not. You’re asking loaded questions to which you know the answers, to trick people into…you do it all the time, Hugh. That’s your modus operandi.